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		<title>Sharad Joshi&#8217;s speech in Rajya Sabha (December 2005) against the word &#8220;socialism&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sharad Joshi&#39;s major speech in the Rajya Sabha of December 2005 has since been deleted from its original place on RS&#39;s website. Luckly Shantanu Bhagwat had made a copy on his blog. I&#39;m making a further copy of whatever is available, on FPI&#39;s website. It is a shame that RS doesn&#39;t maintain all speeches made [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharad Joshi&#39;s major speech in the Rajya Sabha of December 2005 has since been deleted from its original place on RS&#39;s website. Luckly Shantanu Bhagwat had made a <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/10/10/sharad-joshi-socialism/">copy on his blog</a>. I&#39;m making a further copy of whatever is available, on FPI&#39;s website. It is a shame that RS doesn&#39;t maintain all speeches made in Parliament on the internet. The following is a copy of what Shantanu had extracted:</p>
<p>This debate happened on 9th Dec &lsquo;05 in the Rajya Sabha.&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Excerpts below</strong>&nbsp;from this very thought-provoking debate which includes statements made by Sh Ram Jethmalani and Sh Jairam Ramesh.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-align: center; ">*** Excerpts Begin ***</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI:&nbsp; By 15th August, 1947, socialism was not even a significant thought in the Indian polity</strong>.&nbsp; In 1977 an amendment was made to the Preamble.&nbsp; By the Forty-Second (Amendment) Act, 1976, three words, &lsquo;Socialist&rsquo;, Secular&rsquo;, &lsquo;Integrity&rsquo; were introduced in the Preamble to the Constitution.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">There are some problems, which are because of addition of the word &lsquo;Socialist&rsquo; and therefore, my Bill demands that the word &lsquo;socialist&rsquo; be deleted from the Act.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">While socialism may be perfectly good, may be perfectly ideal thing to have but I must have the right to dissent</strong>.&nbsp; I am not taking any anti-socialist position.&nbsp; I am not taking a position that the preamble is wrong but I should have the right to change the preamble, if necessary.&nbsp; We decided to form a political party.&nbsp; We got a reply from the Election Commission saying that you will have to sign a register, or, have a clause in your memorandum of Association that you subscribe to the tenet of &rsquo;socialism.&rsquo;</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Now, this is something which is alright for those with a pliable conscience. The problem is for the honest people who do not want to make a false statement.&nbsp; There is no provision for any verification of the truth of the memoranda or regulations.&nbsp; It is only used according to the convenience and both the parties play the game.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">It compels an association to swear allegiance to the principle of socialism without any attempt to define or even indicate the meaning of the term &rsquo;socialism</strong>&lsquo;.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">The sub-section is, therefore, illegal, unconstitutional and being arbitrary violative of Article 14 of the Constitution of India.&nbsp; The term &rsquo;socialism&rsquo; has not been defined in the Constitution of India or in the Representation of the People Act</strong>.&nbsp; This term has been applied to a large spectrum of theories over the last two centuries. Now, which particular meaning you have, is not clarified either in the Constitution or in the People&rsquo;s Representation Act.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">&hellip;To bear allegiance to the principles of socialism as a precondition, goes against the freedom of expression and thought..</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">The historic fall of the Soviet Union has put a question mark on all nations practicing socialism.&nbsp; Socialistic economics have been found to be not good not only in theory but also in practice.&nbsp;&nbsp; In most of the countries of the world, the socialist systems are collapsing under the weight of their own non-viability. Even the Government of India admitted in 1991, the errors of its socialist past and professed to be pursuing the path of market-oriented economies.&nbsp; I am not trying to override socialism.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">&hellip;That socialists have the possibility of organising themselves as political parties while those having problems of conscience in declaring adherence to socialism should be stopped from organising themselves in to a political party is wholly discriminatory, and hence, clearly in breach of the fundamental right of association.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">&hellip;without going into the question of the precise definition of the term &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; the right of a non-socialist citizen to hold&nbsp; his personal views and be entitled to all the privileges&nbsp; enjoyed by the&nbsp; socialist fellow-citizens cannot be denied.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Firstly, the dispensation of section 29(A) does not serve any particular purpose.&nbsp; Secondly, you are asking the people to swear by a word &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; which has not been defined&hellip;I am only demanding that the legislation should be modified to remove this kind of a contradictory position.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI MOOL CHAND MEENA: &ldquo;Socialism&rdquo; is one of our basic concept&nbsp; which had been incorporated in our Constitution&nbsp; after independence&nbsp; but Shri Joshi ji has not understood&nbsp; the basic concept in its true spirit</strong>and, therefore, purposes an amendment to it.&nbsp; I do not support the amendment moved by Shri Joshi but&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">I will rather request&nbsp; him&nbsp; to understand the basic concept of &lsquo;Socialism&rsquo; and not temper such basic concept.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">&hellip;Today, we are talking of socialism but the poor is getting poorer and the rich is becoming more rich.&nbsp; This needs to be stopped because it is a great threat to the democracy.&nbsp; If this is not stopped, the people would capture Assemblies and Parliament on the basis of money power.&nbsp; Not only our Constitution, but our Independence and our Democracy has been attacked and are being attacked.&nbsp; Strict Action must be taken against those&nbsp; political parties which do not respect the basic spirit of the Constitution.&nbsp; Therefore, I request Shri Joshi not to stress upon removing the word socialism, rather, he should emphasize for its implementation.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI RAM JETHMALANI:&nbsp; To oppose socialism is a very unpopular thing.</strong>&nbsp;The strongest point that Mr. Joshi, has made is that socialism is one of the many economic doctrines that have arisen in this world throughout the core world&rsquo;s economic history.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">To say that you are bound down to a particular economic doctrine, is to curtail the liberty of a speech, and which is inconsistent with democracy.&nbsp; Therefore, Mr. Sharad Joshi is absolutely right that democracy and socialism cannot be equated, because democracy itself means you are right to say things which others do not accept.&nbsp; In spite of all things, he has no chance of getting this Bill passed through this Parliament.</strong>&nbsp;But, certainly, in the Supreme Court of India, he is bound to succeed on the constitutionality of the provision.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">As regards his current speech here,with a little expansion and with a little deletion here and there, it should be published in the form of a book which must be made available to every student and every teacher of political science throughout the country.</strong>Today, socialism and supporters of socialism are becoming unpopular.&nbsp; There are some political parties which bravely say that they do not believe in socialism.&nbsp; It is their right to say it and they should be allowed to exist.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">It is not a practical wisdom to pursue this Bill here.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI RAASHID ALVI:&nbsp; Thebiggest evidence of this country&rsquo;s democracy is that despite this preamble of the Constitution, Mr. Joshi is a Member of this House and with all his vigour , he has every right to oppose the word socialism.</strong>&nbsp;India is country having population of 100 crore people.&nbsp; Who follow different religions, languages and ideologies etc.&nbsp; But, this is not possible that the Constitution should have 100 crore ideologies. When we attained Independence, our country chose to be a democratice country inspite of the fact that Pakistan declared itself to be a Muslim country and that 90 per cent of the Members of Constituent&nbsp; Assembly were Hindu.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">I do not say that everyone in the country is working for secularism.&nbsp; There are political parties, the leaders of which claim to be the followers of great socialist leaders like Dr. Lohia and others, but they are in politics having connection with the richest persons in India.&nbsp; Mr. Joshi said that taking&nbsp; oath in the name of constitution is wrong, because, we do not follow the basic spirit enshrined is its pre-amble.&nbsp; It is provided in the Constitution that you can bring amendment in it and even you can amend the whole of the Constitution.&nbsp; Therefore, it is not proper to state that the word socialism should be removed from the preamble.&nbsp; I strongly oppose this amendment Bill.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN: ShriJoshiji is proposing this Bill despite the fact that the evolution of Indian democracy and Independence is over-based on socialism.</strong>&nbsp;In almost every proposal adopted by the general conferences of Congress before India got independence, a stress was laid that India would follow the path of socialistic pattern of democracy.&nbsp; Therefore, we cannot say that the socialist word is borrowed from some other literature and, therefore, it may be a thing we need to hate.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">&hellip;Socialism is for the distribution of economic produce which is meant for the society.&nbsp; We have the Panchayati System in which any person who has crossed the age of 18 can become a person to decide about the property of the community.&nbsp; This right has been given by Panchayati Raj system.&nbsp; It is the unity of the people at the grass-root level and they decide their own economic welfare.&nbsp; We cannot depend on the FDI alone; we cannot depend on the WTO alone;&nbsp; We cannot depend on the system where we pray that foreigners come here.&nbsp; No doubt, we need better infrastructure, better roads, lot of trains, and more agricultural produce.&nbsp; We need employment for our unemployed people.&nbsp; One day, India will be a Super Power.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Supreme Court says that the word &rsquo;socialist&rsquo; should not be removed. That is the judgement of the Supreme Court.&nbsp; The same Supreme Court says that the word &rsquo;secular&rsquo; should not be removed.&nbsp; India is a secular country, it is a socialist country. That is the verdict of the Supreme Court.&nbsp; The &lsquo;Socialist, Democratic Republic&rsquo;, these words will give spirit to the future of India.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI JAIRAM RAMESH : I think the most important charge that has been&nbsp; levelled was that before 1991 the Indian Economic Policy was based on socialism which was an imported ideology.&nbsp;</strong><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">It is a gross misreading of the economic policy that this country adopted after 1947 on which there was a consensus. I would like to request Mr. Joshi to be sensitive.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Our basic political commitment was to parliamentary form of democracy. We did not adopt the Soviet model lock, stock and barrel.&nbsp; India remained a country in which farms were owned by individuals but we did not introduce collectivisation of agriculture, of the type that was introduced in the Soviet Union and China with disastrous consequences.&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Socialism in the India context meant&nbsp; equality of opportunity.</strong>&nbsp;Today, we are still fighting the battle of extending the benefits of education and health to a large sections of our people.&nbsp; After all, even the Avadi Resolution of 1955 commits the Government to a socialistic pattern of society.&nbsp; And a socialistic pattern of society means equality of opportunity, brotherhood, and education, etc. The Green Revolution was possible because of investments in irrigation and investment in Agricultural Universities.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">You might argue that today that system requires reform. But to say that the entire Green Revolution in India was &lsquo;market force&rsquo; is, a totally wrong view.&nbsp; If there was no Government, there would&nbsp; have been no Green Revolution.&nbsp; I would request Mr.Sharad Joshi&nbsp; to withdraw the Bill.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI K. VENKATAPATHY)</strong>&nbsp;intervening&nbsp; in the debate, said:&nbsp; I am extremely happy that the attention of this august House has been drawn to one of the cardinal principles embodied in our Constitution by Shri Sharad Anantrao Joshi by way of the Representation of the People (Amendment)&nbsp; Bill, 2004.&nbsp; The hon. Member has sought omission on the word&rsquo; socialism&rsquo; from sub-section (5) of Section 29A of the Representation of the People&rsquo;s Act,1951.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">The hon. Member has singled out the word &lsquo;socialism&rsquo; possibly in the background of globalisation of the national economy.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">It may be stated that in view of the widespread poverty and economic disparity, socialism will always remain relevant to the Indian social condition.&nbsp;</strong>Any Government or political party cannot administer this country remaining oblivious to the plight of the general public.&nbsp; In the Indian context, there is no role or scope for a political party, which does not have faith in socialism as reflected in the Directive Principles of State Policy.&nbsp; The fact that you could make a speech against socialism is itself evidence that this right has&nbsp; been conferred by the Constitution.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Our Directive Principles of State Policy also insist that socialistic pattern should be adopted.&nbsp; Therefore, in adherence to that Policy, we have to follow the principle of socialism.&nbsp; Hence, it may be very difficult to subscribe to the view of the hon. Member that the word &lsquo;socialism&rsquo; should be removed from sub-section (5) of Section 29A of the Representation of the People&rsquo;s Act, 1951.&nbsp; Hence, it is not possible to accept the Bill in its present form or with any modifications.&nbsp; In the circumstance, I appeal to the hon. Member to withdraw the Bill.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI&nbsp; replying to the debate, said:</strong>&nbsp;I thank all the Members who have participated in the debate.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Shri&nbsp; Meenaji said that at the time of Independence the general sentiment and the consensus of the people in India, was in favour of socialism that is something which was partly repeated by Mr. Natchiappan and Mr. Jairam Ramesh also.&nbsp; I stoutly deny that.&nbsp; Pt. Nehru himself had admitted that this was not the majority view in the Congress.&nbsp; That was only his personal view.&nbsp; So, to say that in 1947 the general sentiment in India was for having a socialist country is incorrect.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">At that time, the entire freedom movement was fought under Gandhian ideals.&nbsp; Pt. Nehru is on record, as saying that he does not subscribe to the economic policies of Mahatma Gandhi.&nbsp; Gandhiji necessarily stood for predominance of the primordial importance of villages, agriculture, farmer and the individual.&nbsp; After Independence and after Gandhiji was gone, Pt. Nehru tried to turn to a socialistic pattern in which not the villages but the cities became important, not the agriculture but the heavy industries became important, and not the individual and the freedom but the public sector became paramount.&nbsp; This was change the which happened without debate.&nbsp; I never said that Pt. Nehru&rsquo;s taking the country to socialism was wrong.&nbsp; At a given point of time, there were decisions that had to be taken, and that were taken.&nbsp; But, to say that the socialism was the general consensus and sentiment at the time of Independence, is wrong.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">I have never objected to the concept of a democratic and secular India.&nbsp; As a liberal, I stand for democracy and secularism.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; All that I am saying is that as you are being pluralistic in the matter of secularism, religion and faith, why are you not becoming pluralistic even about the economic doctrine?</strong>Socialism may be right, and probably, what you are doing is right.&nbsp; But, do I have not the right to say that I do not believe in socialism?&nbsp; Therefore, what I am saying is, consistent with the glorious history of the Congress Party, which is essentially pluralistic, you may believe in socialism, you carry out your socialist programme, but, permit me the right to not to be socialist.&nbsp; That is all that my Bill was about.&nbsp; Who would have believed that by 1980 we would have come to a time where socialism would be considered a ridiculous doctrine world over.&nbsp; The important thing is my time is still to come.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">I said that the word &lsquo;socialism&rsquo; does not have any meaning and if that is so, then, asking anybody to swear by it is wrong.&nbsp; If you are socialist remain socialist. But please give me my right not to be a socialist.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">The Motion moved by Shri Sharad Anantrao Joshi was negatived.</p>
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		<title>A time to Party!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Barun Mitra. First published in Pragati, here. Recently, the Supreme Court dismissed a public interest litigation (PIL) that questioned the validity of the 42nd amendment to the Indian Constitution, which among many other things, added the terms &#8220;socialist, secular&#8221; to qualify the democratic republic in the Preamble. The amendment dates back to 1976, to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Barun Mitra. First published in Pragati, <a href="http://pragati.nationalinterest.in/2010/08/a-time-to-party/">here</a>.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">Recently, the Supreme Court dismissed a public interest litigation (PIL) that questioned the validity of the 42nd amendment to the Indian Constitution, which among many other things, added the terms &ldquo;socialist, secular&rdquo; to qualify the democratic republic in the Preamble. The amendment dates back to 1976, to the dark days of Emergency. Later, the Representation of the People Act, the law governing political parties and elections, was further amended to include the section 29A, making it mandatory for all political parties in India to affirm to &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; if they were to be registered by the Election Commission of India for the purpose of participating in the electoral process</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">The courts always dismiss petitions before them once they pronounce a particular judgment. In this case, however, the Supreme Court acknowledged the &ldquo;academic&rdquo; question raised in the petition, but felt that since no political party has so far objected to it, there are perhaps no really aggrieved parties. So it allowed the petitioner to &ldquo;withdraw&rdquo; the petition. This withdrawal, however, means that the Court has not ruled against the issue, but considers it to be valid, and has kept it open for a future occasion.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">The champions of individual freedom in economic and political spheres have long bemoaned the fact that there is no political platform in India that truly reflects their aspirations. No doubt there are liberals of different shades in almost all political parties, but still there are no avowedly liberal political parties.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">Political parties are plentiful, with around 50 parties represented in the national parliament, and hundreds of parties operating at state and local levels. They represent a diverse range of interests: national, state, regional or local. They claim to represent varied sections of society based on national, ethnic, linguistic, religious, caste, and other identities. Yet, the political ideals on offer are very limited, as all parties are bound by socialism if they are to participate in electoral politics. Incidentally, independent candidates are not required to affirm to socialism, and if elected have only to take oath to uphold the Constitution. One of the reasons for this limited range of political options in the largest and the most vibrant democracy in the world, is the law that requires affirmation to socialism.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">By legally restricting the political ideology to &ldquo;socialism&rdquo;, a couple of serious anomalies have been created. Having introduced &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; through the political and constitutional process, it is now being implied that &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; cannot be opposed and removed by the very same constitutional process. How can one mount a political campaign calling for the removal of &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; in the election law or in the Constitution, after having affirmed to &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; as a political ideal?</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">Secondly, what does socialism mean? The Constitution does not define it. The judges hearing the PIL commented that the meaning could vary. But could &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; include feudalism, imperialism, fascism, Nazism (national socialism), communism, capitalism, and everything else? If it does have such a wide range of meanings, why have it at all? The judiciary spends a lot of effort on interpreting the law by trying to precisely define the words in it. Justice would come to an end if words were given such variable meanings.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">The Supreme Court has seen this as an &ldquo;academic&rdquo; exercise. But the impact of &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; in the Constitution and in the election law raises questions about possible violation of fundamental rights such as freedom of expression, freedom of association, and basic structure doctrine. If democracy is among the sacrosanct elements articulated in the judgments on basic structure, then what good is democracy where political discourse is limited exclusively to one political ideology?</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">Political ideologies matter in shaping public opinion and policies. The stated goal of all political action may be to improve general welfare; but, it is the ideology that provides the vision, and determines the direction and nature of the policies that are designed. Policy decisions whether to nationalise an industry or economic sector, or to privatise it, are shaped much more by political ideologies, than by hard core technical analysis of the merits of the proposed policy measures. In a democracy, people and leaders are not experts in all fields. Political ideologies come as a simple tool by which people decide on the general direction they think society ought to take, and the merits of specific public policies.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">There is no functioning democracy in the world which restrains the space for peacefully competing political ideologies, except perhaps Germany, where there is some restriction on propagation of Nazi ideology. In every major democracy, the political ideology that is most successful in reflecting the aspirations of the large number of people at any given time, changes the political dynamics during elections. From Ronald Reagan to Barack Obama, from Margaret Thatcher to Tony Blair, the fortunes of political leaders and their parties have swung with the popular perception of the political ideologies of the time. This is what makes democracy such a potent political tool, and ensures the political survival of the society through the various competing ideologies.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">The Constituent Assembly had deliberated at length on this very question of &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; in 1949. Even while acknowledging that there are many provisions in the Constitution that are socialistic in nature, the constitution makers had decided not to tie the hands of the future generations to a particular political idea. No less a person than Dr B R Ambedkar, the chairman of the drafting committee had then said,</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">&ldquo;What should be the policy of the state, how society should be organised in its social and economic side are matters which must be decided by the people themselves according to time and circumstances. It cannot be laid down in the Constitution itself, because that is destroying democracy altogether &hellip;&rdquo;</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">If democracy is one of the basic features of the Constitution, then restricting it to on political ideology, is clearly a violation of the basic feature doctrine. What would be a democracy, where political parties are not free to fly their particular ideologies, and compete with each other in an attempt to peacefully persuade the citizens to one vision or another?</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">Swatantra Party Maharashtra&mdash;the inheritors of the mantle of the Swatantra Party, founded by stalwarts like C Rajagopalachari, Minoo Masani and others in 1959&mdash;had written to the Election Commission of India in 1994, noting their opposition to the ideas of socialism, and their inability to affirm to socialist ideals. The Commission had replied by pointing at the amendment to the section 29A of the Representation of the People Act which mandates affirmation to socialism. It thus acknowledged that its role is to implement the law as it stands, not to change or reinterpret it.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">By acknowledging the &ldquo;academic&rdquo; nature of the question in the PIL, the Supreme Court has actually opened a door for the political liberals to come out of the woodwork. Now is the time for the liberals to come together and form a political party, with the sole objective of registering their opposition to the affirmation to socialist ideal. After forming the political party, an application to the Election Commission for registration needs to be filed, even though it is likely to be rejected for not meeting the legal requirement. That would enable the party to go to the Supreme Court and seek redressal of a legitimate and real grievance.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">Liberals may not yet be a political force to have an electoral impact in India, but by forming a party with this narrow objective, can leave a permanent imprint on the political future of democratic republic of India. This is a not an exclusively liberal cause, though, and it is open to all shades of political opinion. If one ideology enjoys legal sanction today, then tomorrow another could very easily be banned. Putting democracy in a straitjacket will signal the end of political freedom.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 1em; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">All are welcome to the Party of the free and the brave! If the political space can be legitimately opened up, then the political agenda would have to change too, and then the electoral space will inevitably follow.</p>
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		<title>We&#8217;re All (Still) Socialists in India</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Barun Mitra. First published in Wall Street Journal. &#160; India&#39;s politicians love to talk about &#34;reform,&#34; but if the recent past is any indication, most of them like spending money more. There&#39;s the $22 billion annual bill for food and fertilizer subsidies; the billions spent every year on the rural employment guarantee scheme; plentiful [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Barun Mitra. First published in <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703977004575392521877896304.html">Wall Street Journal</a>.</p>
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<div>India&#39;s politicians love to talk about &quot;reform,&quot; but if the recent past is any indication, most of them like spending money more. There&#39;s the $22 billion annual bill for food and fertilizer subsidies; the billions spent every year on the rural employment guarantee scheme; plentiful government-subsidized loans; and on, and on. The lack of debate over the virtues of these wasteful policies is striking in the world&#39;s most vibrant democracy. A big reason is because all Indian politicians are&mdash;officially&mdash;socialists.</div>
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<div>That&#39;s not a typo. During the height of Indira Gandhi&#39;s Emergency Rule in 1976, policy makers passed the 42nd Amendment to the Constitution, which added the words &quot;socialist&quot; and &quot;secular&quot; to the preamble. Then in 1989, the Representation of People Act, the law which governs elections and political parties, was amended to make it mandatory for all political parties seeking registration with the Election Commission to affirm not only the general constitution but also socialism. Since then all political parties have sworn to socialism without any hesitation, without bothering to define what it means.</div>
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<div>These are more than just semantics. Political parties are plentiful in India, with around 50 parties represented in the national parliament, and hundreds of parties operating at state and local levels. Yet, the political ideals on offer are very limited, and there are no avowedly liberal political parties. The &quot;socialist&quot; pledge, as it turns out, has created a serious legal anomaly and a damaging precedent.</div>
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<div>Indira Gandhi: A voluntary socialist.</div>
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<div>Look no further than the recent case of Sanjiv Agarwal, the head of the Good Governance India Foundation in Calcutta. In 2007, Mr. Agarwal, whose nongovernment organization fights for property rights and the rule of law, filed a public-interest petition to the Supreme Court questioning the validity of the 42nd Amendment and the relevant section of the Representation of People Act. The petition argued both provisions violated the basic premise of democracy and political freedom enshrined in the Constitution.</div>
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<div>Two years later, the Election Commission filed a response and acknowledged that the 1989 law required all parties to affirm their loyalty to socialism. In other words, although the word &quot;socialism&quot; was included in the Constitution through the political and constitutional process, it cannot be opposed and removed by the very same process. The Government of India did not file a reply.</div>
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<div>When the petition was first heard by the Supreme Court in January 2008, Mr. Agarwal&#39;s lawyer pointed out that the anomaly in the election law had been questioned in 1995 by the Swatantra Party Maharashtra, a small political party located in Maharashtra State. Unfortunately the Mumbai High Court still has not heard the petition&mdash;even though 15 years have passed since its filing.</div>
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<div>Mr. Agarwal couldn&#39;t legally substantiate the details of the old case, and the judges on the bench observed that while it was a valid point, it was also an &quot;academic&quot; one, since no political party in the country had actually opposed it. So the petition was withdrawn on July 12.</div>
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<div>The fight isn&#39;t over, however. The Supreme Court did not reject the petition outright. Instead, the three-judge bench implied the court would prefer to deal with it when a political party actually is aggrieved, or refused registration because of its refusal to affirm socialist beliefs. The Court&#39;s statement also implies there is merit in Mr. Agarwal&#39;s arguments.</div>
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<div>As it should: India&#39;s founders debated the question of socialism at length in 1949. The chairman of the constitutional drafting committee, B.R. Ambedkar, said: &quot;What should be the policy of the state, how society should be organized in its social and economic side are matters which must be decided by the people themselves according to time and circumstances. It cannot be laid down in the Constitution itself, because that is destroying democracy altogether.&quot;</div>
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<div>Fixing India&#39;s foray into socialism will take time. None of the serious political parties engaged in the electoral fray in the past 20 years has objected to the socialism clause, including nominally conservative parties such as the Bharatiya Janata Party and Shiv Sena. All see great political benefits from large public-spending programs that cement political patronage, even if those policies ultimately create more dependence, higher unemployment and lower future economic growth.</div>
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<div>Yet India is changing slowly but surely since the &quot;big bang&quot; economic reform of the early 1990s. Today, the economy is poised to enter into a 10% annual GDP growth phase. Foreign multinationals have purchased two of the biggest Indian pharmaceutical companies at record prices, and rather than raising fear, many Indians feel proud that Indian assets could fetch such high values in the global marketplace. The recent auction of third-generation telecommunication spectrum raised a phenomenal $20 billion.</div>
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<div>All political parties need to take up this cause. If the political space is legitimately opened up, then the political agenda would have to change too&mdash;and then the electorate may inevitably follow. India&#39;s free-market liberals then might find their rightful place in the political mosaic of the country. Just as India&#39;s diversity has sustained her democracy, political diversity will only strengthen the foundation of the republic.</div>
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<div><em>Mr. Mitra is director of the Liberty Institute in New Delhi and a columnist for WSJ.com.</em></div>
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		<title>Our Socialistic Constitution</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By&#160;Shanu Athiparambath, from his blog&#160;here. Also published here. A writ petition by an NGO challenging the insertion of the word &#8220;socialism&#8221; in the Preamble to the Constitution was rejected by the Supreme Court on Monday. Section 29 A (5) of the Representation of the People Act makes it mandatory that every political party in India [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">By&nbsp;<a href="http://sabhlokcity.com/2009/06/a-public-debate-between-shanu-athiparambath-and-sanjeev-sabhlok-on-the-philosophy-of-freedom/" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 82, 153); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Shanu Athiparambath</a>, from his blog&nbsp;<a href="http://austrianeconomist.net/?p=211" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 82, 153); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">here</a>. Also published <a href="http://sabhlokcity.com/2010/07/our-socialistic-constitution/">here</a>.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">A writ petition by an NGO challenging the insertion of the word &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; in the Preamble to the Constitution was rejected by the Supreme Court on Monday. Section 29 A (5) of the Representation of the People Act makes it mandatory that every political party in India should swear allegiance to socialism. It came into effect through the Constitution (42nd) Amendment Act, 1976. The preamble reads as follows: &ldquo;We, the people of India, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a sovereign socialist secular democratic republic.&rdquo; A political party which fails or refuses to do so will be rejected at outset. Senior counsel Fali Nariman argued that the 42nd Amendment had evolved during the Emergency period, and that it violated the basic structure of the Constitution. Nariman had said before that &ldquo;It is contrary to the Constitution and to its democratic foundations that political parties be called upon to swear allegiance only to a particular mindset or ideology.&rdquo; Dr. B.R. Ambedkar had opposed the inclusion of the word socialism in the constitution.</p>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Surprisingly, Justice Kapadia said that till now, no political party had challenged the constitution, and that the Supreme Court will consider it when the time comes. Facts don&rsquo;t support this statement. S V Raju of the Swatantra party applied for the registration of a political party vehemently opposed to Socialism, and his application was rejected. &ldquo;Socialism is a form of economic engineering. The grievance in our petition was that the country did not allow us to participate in the electoral process without telling a lie and we did not want to lie.&rdquo; he said. So much for the claim that the Indian constitution allows liberty of thought, expression, belief, faith and worship! Whatever one thinks of democracy, it should be evident that this decree of the Supreme Court in not compatible with it. In the words of Ambedkar, &ldquo;What should be the policy of the State, how the Society should be organized in its social and economic side are matters which must be decided by the people themselves according to time and circumstances. It cannot be laid down in the Constitution itself, because that is destroying democracy altogether. If you state in the Constitution that the social organization of the State shall take a particular form, you are, in my judgment, taking away the liberty of the people to decide what should be the social organization in which they wish to live. It is perfectly possible today, for the majority people to hold that the socialist organization of society is better than the capitalist organization of society. But it would be perfectly possible for thinking people to devise some other form of social organization which might be better than the socialist organization of today or of tomorrow. I do not see therefore why the Constitution should tie down the people to live in a particular form and not leave it to the people themselves to decide it for themselves.&rdquo;</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">&nbsp;</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">The chief justice said this while rejecting a petition in the past: &ldquo;Why do you take socialism in a narrow sense defined by the Communists? In a broader sense, socialism means welfare measures for the citizens. It is a facet of democracy. It hasn&rsquo;t got any definite meaning. It gets different meaning in different times.&rdquo; All this is nonsense. The word socialism has a specific meaning. It is a political system in which all property is owned by the state. &nbsp;It has always been so. We should take terms in its precise sense, and see it for what it is. If the Supreme Court finds the problem purely academic, they would have no reason to include it in the constitution. The last resort of people who want to debase liberty and freedom of expression is that people no longer believes it these days! If so, why insist that people swear allegiance to it?</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">&nbsp;</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">The Indian constitution guarantees justice and equality before law. Socialism fails on both counts. If the society should collectively own all property, it would mean that some are slaves, at least partially. It doesn&rsquo;t mean equality before law, and hence fails the universalization test.</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">&nbsp;</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Let us look at the policies of the present Indian Government. It has accepted the major proposals of the communist manifesto like &ldquo;A heavy progressive or graduated income tax&rdquo;, &ldquo;Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly&rdquo; and &ldquo;Free education for all children in public schools&rdquo; lock, stock and barrel. They have implemented almost all the other demands too, to some extent at many points in its history. The Government had confiscated property of emigrants, partially centralized communication and transportation and imposed several such monstrous legislations without any qualms. Mines, banks and wholesale grain trade were nationalized during the period of Indira Gandhi. There is no point in fooling ourselves. India has a long history of socialistic policies which kept most of its population poor for six decades. This has to change if we are to achieve progress and a re-look at our constitution would be a right move towards it.</div>
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		<title>Petition against term “socialist” in Constitution rejected</title>
		<link>http://freedomparty.in/2010/07/petition-against-term-%e2%80%9csocialist%e2%80%9d-in-constitution-rejected/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(By&#160;J. VENKATESAN, The Hindu) The Supreme Court on Monday dismissed as withdrawn a writ petition challenging the validity of Section 2 of the Constitution (42nd Amendment) by virtue of which the word &#8216;socialist&#8217; was inserted in the Preamble to the Constitution. The petition, filed by the Good Governance India Foundation, also challenged the validity of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(By&nbsp;J. VENKATESAN, <a href="http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article512619.ece">The Hindu</a>)</p>
<p class="body" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; ">The Supreme Court on Monday dismissed as withdrawn a writ petition challenging the validity of Section 2 of the Constitution (42nd Amendment) by virtue of which the word &lsquo;socialist&rsquo; was inserted in the Preamble to the Constitution.</p>
<p class="body" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; ">The petition, filed by the Good Governance India Foundation, also challenged the validity of Section 29 A (5) of the Representation of the People Act, which was inserted by way of Section 6 of the RP (Amendment) Act, 1989 making it incumbent upon every political party registered in India to pledge allegiance to the socialist ideal, failing which such a party would be rejected from registration.</p>
<p class="body" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; ">A three-Judge Bench comprising Chief Justice of India S.H. Kapadia and Justices K.S. Radhakrishan and Swatanter Kumar, after hearing senior counsel Fali Nariman, Solicitor-General Gopal Subramaniam for the Centre and counsel Meenakshi Arora for the Election Commission permitted the petitioner to withdraw the petition saying that the issues raised would be left open and decided as and when the situation arose.</p>
<p class="body" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; ">Mr. Nariman submitted that the 42nd Amendment, evolved in the climate of national Emergency, violated the basic structure of the Constitution. Prior to the amendment, the Preamble read as follows &ldquo;We, the people of India, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a sovereign democratic republic.&rdquo; After the amendment, the Preamble read: &ldquo;We, the people of India, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a sovereign socialist secular democratic republic.&rdquo;</p>
<h3 style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(55, 53, 53); text-transform: uppercase; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; "><b style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; ">AMBEDKAR&rsquo;S OPPOSITION</b></h3>
<p class="body" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; ">Mr. Nariman read out debates in the Constituent Assembly to drive home the point that Dr. Ambedkar had opposed the inclusion of word &lsquo;socialist&rsquo; in the Constitution. He said the court should go into the question whether the powers under Article 368 to amend the provisions would include the power to amend even the Preamble. Justice Kapadia, however, told Mr. Nariman that so far no political party had challenged this and every one had subscribed to it. The court would consider it when the Commission faced challenge from any political party.</p>
<p class="body" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; ">The NGO, in its petition, contended that the 42nd Amendment altered the Preamble, which was impermissible as it contained the ideals and aspirations or the objects which the Constitution-makers intended to be realised by its enacting provisions. It said that such an insertion was wholly inconsistent with the phrase &lsquo;liberty of thought, expression, belief, faith and worship,&rsquo; in the Preamble itself.</p>
<p class="body" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; ">The petitioner submitted that the 42nd Amendment attempted to create a particular ideological basis for adherence to the Constitution, which was against the principles of a multi-party democracy and which breached the unity and integrity of the nation. The ingestion of the socialist principle was antithetical to the principle of democracy, which was considered a basic structure of the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>Why Socialism Fails: A Parable</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 02:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Atanu Dey, Speakers Panel, FTI, from his blog here. This is a parable that succinctly illustrates why socialism fails. It fails because of one fundamental feature of human nature:&#160;people respond to incentives. Actually, the most important lesson one learns from a study of economics is just that &#8211; incentives matter. Here&#8217;s the story. An [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Atanu Dey, <a href="http://freedomteam.in/blog/speakers-panel">Speakers Panel, FTI</a>, from his blog <a href="http://www.deeshaa.org/2010/07/09/why-socialism-fails-a-parable/">here</a>.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">This is a parable that succinctly illustrates why socialism fails. It fails because of one fundamental feature of human nature:&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">people respond to incentives</strong>. Actually, the most important lesson one learns from a study of economics is just that &ndash; incentives matter. Here&rsquo;s the story.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">An economics professor said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said ok, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied only a little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too; so they studied less than what they had. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great; but when government takes all the reward away; no one will try or want to succeed.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">[I am not entirely sure which source to credit for the story. It seems that this could be it but I don&#39;t know.]</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">The idea of sharing stuff equally is not a bad idea, actually,&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><em style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">if</em></strong>&nbsp;it is confined to a small closely-knit group of people who all care for each other deeply &ndash; as in a family. The usual problems associated with interactions among large anonymous groups of people, problems identified as &ldquo;prisoner&rsquo;s dilemma&rdquo;, or &ldquo;the tragedy of the commons&rdquo;, don&rsquo;t usually arise in such small persistent groups. In any case, free-riders in small groups can be easily identified. Also, most people value the welfare of their own family members more than they value the welfare of strangers. That curbs any impulse to free-ride.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Indians need to understand why socialism fails. That is a necessary, although not sufficient, condition for India to get out of poverty.</p>
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		<title>Freedom Party of India for freedom, not socialism</title>
		<link>http://freedomparty.in/2010/05/hello-world/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 12:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Freedom Party firmly opposes socialism. It cannot agree to swear allegiance to socialism.&#160; Recently, the Supreme Court on Monday dismissed as withdrawn a writ petition challenging the validity of Section 2 of the Constitution (42nd Amendment) by virtue of which the word &#8216;socialist&#8217; was inserted in the Preamble to the Constitution. The petition, filed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Freedom Party firmly opposes socialism. It cannot agree to swear allegiance to socialism.&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article512619.ece">Recently</a>, the Supreme Court on Monday dismissed as withdrawn a writ petition challenging the validity of Section 2 of the Constitution (42nd Amendment) by virtue of which the word &lsquo;socialist&rsquo; was inserted in the Preamble to the Constitution.</p>
<p class="body" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; ">The petition, filed by the Good Governance India Foundation, also challenged the validity of Section 29 A (5) of the Representation of the People Act, which was inserted by way of Section 6 of the RP (Amendment) Act, 1989 making it incumbent upon every political party registered in India to pledge allegiance to the socialist ideal, failing which such a party would be rejected from registration.</p>
<p>The Freedom Party does not believe that this Hon&#39;ble Supreme Court has considered the fundamental merits of this matter appropriately.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://indiapolicy.org/debate/Notes/writ-petition.htm">linked</a> writ petition was filed before the High Court in 1994 and has not yet been resolved. In 1996 S.V. Raju wrote how India is <a href="http://indiapolicy.org/debate/Notes/writ-article.htm">making a mockery of democracy</a>.</p>
<p>The Freedom Party is assembling to offer good governance to India, based on the principles of Freedom. Join as a <a href="http://partners.freedomteam.in">Freedom Partner</a> to support, and join the <a href="http://freedomteam.in/">Freedom Team of India</a> to lead.</p>
<p><strong>And if you will NEVER swear allegiance to socialism, join</strong> <strong><a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=126842464025475">this Facebook group</a></strong>.</p>
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		<title>Sharad Joshi on Socialism</title>
		<link>http://freedomparty.in/2009/10/sharad-joshi-on-socialism/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Shantanu&#39;s Blog, Satyameva Jayate, here. While clearing my (now very long) list of pending &#8220;To Dos&#8221;, I came across&#160;this report&#160;on the&#160;motion moved by Sharad Joshi to delete the word &#8220;socialist&#8221; from the Constitution as it was not part of its basic structure.&#160;This debate happened on 9th Dec &#8216;05 in the Rajya Sabha.&#160;Excerpts below&#160;from this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>From Shantanu&#39;s Blog, Satyameva Jayate, <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/10/10/sharad-joshi-socialism/">here</a>.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">While clearing my (now very long) list of pending &ldquo;To Dos&rdquo;, I came across&nbsp;<a href="http://164.100.47.5/synopsis/206/s09122005.htm" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; " target="_blank">this report</a>&nbsp;on the&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">motion moved by Sharad Joshi to delete the word &ldquo;socialist&rdquo; from the Constitution as it was not part of its basic structure.&nbsp;</strong>This debate happened on 9th Dec &lsquo;05 in the Rajya Sabha.&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Excerpts below</strong>&nbsp;from this very thought-provoking debate which includes statements made by Sh Ram Jethmalani and Sh Jairam Ramesh.<span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-decoration: line-through; ">Unfortunately the source link that I had to the article is not working anymore</span>&nbsp;Link found/updated above.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-align: center; ">*** Excerpts Begin ***</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI:&nbsp; By 15th August, 1947, socialism was not even a significant thought in the Indian polity</strong>.&nbsp; In 1977 an amendment was made to the Preamble.&nbsp; By the Forty-Second (Amendment) Act, 1976, three words, &lsquo;Socialist&rsquo;, Secular&rsquo;, &lsquo;Integrity&rsquo; were introduced in the Preamble to the Constitution.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">There are some problems, which are because of addition of the word &lsquo;Socialist&rsquo; and therefore, my Bill demands that the word &lsquo;socialist&rsquo; be deleted from the Act.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">While socialism may be perfectly good, may be perfectly ideal thing to have but I must have the right to dissent</strong>.&nbsp; I am not taking any anti-socialist position.&nbsp; I am not taking a position that the preamble is wrong but I should have the right to change the preamble, if necessary.&nbsp; We decided to form a political party.&nbsp; We got a reply from the Election Commission saying that you will have to sign a register, or, have a clause in your memorandum of Association that you subscribe to the tenet of &rsquo;socialism.&rsquo;</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Now, this is something which is alright for those with a pliable conscience. The problem is for the honest people who do not want to make a false statement.&nbsp; There is no provision for any verification of the truth of the memoranda or regulations.&nbsp; It is only used according to the convenience and both the parties play the game.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">It compels an association to swear allegiance to the principle of socialism without any attempt to define or even indicate the meaning of the term &rsquo;socialism</strong>&lsquo;.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">The sub-section is, therefore, illegal, unconstitutional and being arbitrary violative of Article 14 of the Constitution of India.&nbsp; The term &rsquo;socialism&rsquo; has not been defined in the Constitution of India or in the Representation of the People Act</strong>.&nbsp; This term has been applied to a large spectrum of theories over the last two centuries. Now, which particular meaning you have, is not clarified either in the Constitution or in the People&rsquo;s Representation Act.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">&hellip;To bear allegiance to the principles of socialism as a precondition, goes against the freedom of expression and thought..</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">The historic fall of the Soviet Union has put a question mark on all nations practicing socialism.&nbsp; Socialistic economics have been found to be not good not only in theory but also in practice.&nbsp;&nbsp; In most of the countries of the world, the socialist systems are collapsing under the weight of their own non-viability. Even the Government of India admitted in 1991, the errors of its socialist past and professed to be pursuing the path of market-oriented economies.&nbsp; I am not trying to override socialism.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">&hellip;That socialists have the possibility of organising themselves as political parties while those having problems of conscience in declaring adherence to socialism should be stopped from organising themselves in to a political party is wholly discriminatory, and hence, clearly in breach of the fundamental right of association.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">&hellip;without going into the question of the precise definition of the term &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; the right of a non-socialist citizen to hold&nbsp; his personal views and be entitled to all the privileges&nbsp; enjoyed by the&nbsp; socialist fellow-citizens cannot be denied.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Firstly, the dispensation of section 29(A) does not serve any particular purpose.&nbsp; Secondly, you are asking the people to swear by a word &ldquo;socialism&rdquo; which has not been defined&hellip;I am only demanding that the legislation should be modified to remove this kind of a contradictory position.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI MOOL CHAND MEENA: &ldquo;Socialism&rdquo; is one of our basic concept&nbsp; which had been incorporated in our Constitution&nbsp; after independence&nbsp; but Shri Joshi ji has not understood&nbsp; the basic concept in its true spirit</strong>and, therefore, purposes an amendment to it.&nbsp; I do not support the amendment moved by Shri Joshi but&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">I will rather request&nbsp; him&nbsp; to understand the basic concept of &lsquo;Socialism&rsquo; and not temper such basic concept.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">&hellip;Today, we are talking of socialism but the poor is getting poorer and the rich is becoming more rich.&nbsp; This needs to be stopped because it is a great threat to the democracy.&nbsp; If this is not stopped, the people would capture Assemblies and Parliament on the basis of money power.&nbsp; Not only our Constitution, but our Independence and our Democracy has been attacked and are being attacked.&nbsp; Strict Action must be taken against those&nbsp; political parties which do not respect the basic spirit of the Constitution.&nbsp; Therefore, I request Shri Joshi not to stress upon removing the word socialism, rather, he should emphasize for its implementation.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI RAM JETHMALANI:&nbsp; To oppose socialism is a very unpopular thing.</strong>&nbsp;The strongest point that Mr. Joshi, has made is that socialism is one of the many economic doctrines that have arisen in this world throughout the core world&rsquo;s economic history.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">To say that you are bound down to a particular economic doctrine, is to curtail the liberty of a speech, and which is inconsistent with democracy.&nbsp; Therefore, Mr. Sharad Joshi is absolutely right that democracy and socialism cannot be equated, because democracy itself means you are right to say things which others do not accept.&nbsp; In spite of all things, he has no chance of getting this Bill passed through this Parliament.</strong>&nbsp;But, certainly, in the Supreme Court of India, he is bound to succeed on the constitutionality of the provision.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">As regards his current speech here,with a little expansion and with a little deletion here and there, it should be published in the form of a book which must be made available to every student and every teacher of political science throughout the country.</strong>Today, socialism and supporters of socialism are becoming unpopular.&nbsp; There are some political parties which bravely say that they do not believe in socialism.&nbsp; It is their right to say it and they should be allowed to exist.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">It is not a practical wisdom to pursue this Bill here.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI RAASHID ALVI:&nbsp; Thebiggest evidence of this country&rsquo;s democracy is that despite this preamble of the Constitution, Mr. Joshi is a Member of this House and with all his vigour , he has every right to oppose the word socialism.</strong>&nbsp;India is country having population of 100 crore people.&nbsp; Who follow different religions, languages and ideologies etc.&nbsp; But, this is not possible that the Constitution should have 100 crore ideologies. When we attained Independence, our country chose to be a democratice country inspite of the fact that Pakistan declared itself to be a Muslim country and that 90 per cent of the Members of Constituent&nbsp; Assembly were Hindu.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">I do not say that everyone in the country is working for secularism.&nbsp; There are political parties, the leaders of which claim to be the followers of great socialist leaders like Dr. Lohia and others, but they are in politics having connection with the richest persons in India.&nbsp; Mr. Joshi said that taking&nbsp; oath in the name of constitution is wrong, because, we do not follow the basic spirit enshrined is its pre-amble.&nbsp; It is provided in the Constitution that you can bring amendment in it and even you can amend the whole of the Constitution.&nbsp; Therefore, it is not proper to state that the word socialism should be removed from the preamble.&nbsp; I strongly oppose this amendment Bill.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN: ShriJoshiji is proposing this Bill despite the fact that the evolution of Indian democracy and Independence is over-based on socialism.</strong>&nbsp;In almost every proposal adopted by the general conferences of Congress before India got independence, a stress was laid that India would follow the path of socialistic pattern of democracy.&nbsp; Therefore, we cannot say that the socialist word is borrowed from some other literature and, therefore, it may be a thing we need to hate.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">&hellip;Socialism is for the distribution of economic produce which is meant for the society.&nbsp; We have the Panchayati System in which any person who has crossed the age of 18 can become a person to decide about the property of the community.&nbsp; This right has been given by Panchayati Raj system.&nbsp; It is the unity of the people at the grass-root level and they decide their own economic welfare.&nbsp; We cannot depend on the FDI alone; we cannot depend on the WTO alone;&nbsp; We cannot depend on the system where we pray that foreigners come here.&nbsp; No doubt, we need better infrastructure, better roads, lot of trains, and more agricultural produce.&nbsp; We need employment for our unemployed people.&nbsp; One day, India will be a Super Power.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Supreme Court says that the word &rsquo;socialist&rsquo; should not be removed. That is the judgement of the Supreme Court.&nbsp; The same Supreme Court says that the word &rsquo;secular&rsquo; should not be removed.&nbsp; India is a secular country, it is a socialist country. That is the verdict of the Supreme Court.&nbsp; The &lsquo;Socialist, Democratic Republic&rsquo;, these words will give spirit to the future of India.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI JAIRAM RAMESH : I think the most important charge that has been&nbsp; levelled was that before 1991 the Indian Economic Policy was based on socialism which was an imported ideology.&nbsp;</strong><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">It is a gross misreading of the economic policy that this country adopted after 1947 on which there was a consensus. I would like to request Mr. Joshi to be sensitive.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Our basic political commitment was to parliamentary form of democracy. We did not adopt the Soviet model lock, stock and barrel.&nbsp; India remained a country in which farms were owned by individuals but we did not introduce collectivisation of agriculture, of the type that was introduced in the Soviet Union and China with disastrous consequences.&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Socialism in the India context meant&nbsp; equality of opportunity.</strong>&nbsp;Today, we are still fighting the battle of extending the benefits of education and health to a large sections of our people.&nbsp; After all, even the Avadi Resolution of 1955 commits the Government to a socialistic pattern of society.&nbsp; And a socialistic pattern of society means equality of opportunity, brotherhood, and education, etc. The Green Revolution was possible because of investments in irrigation and investment in Agricultural Universities.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">You might argue that today that system requires reform. But to say that the entire Green Revolution in India was &lsquo;market force&rsquo; is, a totally wrong view.&nbsp; If there was no Government, there would&nbsp; have been no Green Revolution.&nbsp; I would request Mr.Sharad Joshi&nbsp; to withdraw the Bill.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI K. VENKATAPATHY)</strong>&nbsp;intervening&nbsp; in the debate, said:&nbsp; I am extremely happy that the attention of this august House has been drawn to one of the cardinal principles embodied in our Constitution by Shri Sharad Anantrao Joshi by way of the Representation of the People (Amendment)&nbsp; Bill, 2004.&nbsp; The hon. Member has sought omission on the word&rsquo; socialism&rsquo; from sub-section (5) of Section 29A of the Representation of the People&rsquo;s Act,1951.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">The hon. Member has singled out the word &lsquo;socialism&rsquo; possibly in the background of globalisation of the national economy.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">It may be stated that in view of the widespread poverty and economic disparity, socialism will always remain relevant to the Indian social condition.&nbsp;</strong>Any Government or political party cannot administer this country remaining oblivious to the plight of the general public.&nbsp; In the Indian context, there is no role or scope for a political party, which does not have faith in socialism as reflected in the Directive Principles of State Policy.&nbsp; The fact that you could make a speech against socialism is itself evidence that this right has&nbsp; been conferred by the Constitution.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Our Directive Principles of State Policy also insist that socialistic pattern should be adopted.&nbsp; Therefore, in adherence to that Policy, we have to follow the principle of socialism.&nbsp; Hence, it may be very difficult to subscribe to the view of the hon. Member that the word &lsquo;socialism&rsquo; should be removed from sub-section (5) of Section 29A of the Representation of the People&rsquo;s Act, 1951.&nbsp; Hence, it is not possible to accept the Bill in its present form or with any modifications.&nbsp; In the circumstance, I appeal to the hon. Member to withdraw the Bill.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI&nbsp; replying to the debate, said:</strong>&nbsp;I thank all the Members who have participated in the debate.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Shri&nbsp; Meenaji said that at the time of Independence the general sentiment and the consensus of the people in India, was in favour of socialism that is something which was partly repeated by Mr. Natchiappan and Mr. Jairam Ramesh also.&nbsp; I stoutly deny that.&nbsp; Pt. Nehru himself had admitted that this was not the majority view in the Congress.&nbsp; That was only his personal view.&nbsp; So, to say that in 1947 the general sentiment in India was for having a socialist country is incorrect.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">At that time, the entire freedom movement was fought under Gandhian ideals.&nbsp; Pt. Nehru is on record, as saying that he does not subscribe to the economic policies of Mahatma Gandhi.&nbsp; Gandhiji necessarily stood for predominance of the primordial importance of villages, agriculture, farmer and the individual.&nbsp; After Independence and after Gandhiji was gone, Pt. Nehru tried to turn to a socialistic pattern in which not the villages but the cities became important, not the agriculture but the heavy industries became important, and not the individual and the freedom but the public sector became paramount.&nbsp; This was change the which happened without debate.&nbsp; I never said that Pt. Nehru&rsquo;s taking the country to socialism was wrong.&nbsp; At a given point of time, there were decisions that had to be taken, and that were taken.&nbsp; But, to say that the socialism was the general consensus and sentiment at the time of Independence, is wrong.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">I have never objected to the concept of a democratic and secular India.&nbsp; As a liberal, I stand for democracy and secularism.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; All that I am saying is that as you are being pluralistic in the matter of secularism, religion and faith, why are you not becoming pluralistic even about the economic doctrine?</strong>Socialism may be right, and probably, what you are doing is right.&nbsp; But, do I have not the right to say that I do not believe in socialism?&nbsp; Therefore, what I am saying is, consistent with the glorious history of the Congress Party, which is essentially pluralistic, you may believe in socialism, you carry out your socialist programme, but, permit me the right to not to be socialist.&nbsp; That is all that my Bill was about.&nbsp; Who would have believed that by 1980 we would have come to a time where socialism would be considered a ridiculous doctrine world over.&nbsp; The important thing is my time is still to come.&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">I said that the word &lsquo;socialism&rsquo; does not have any meaning and if that is so, then, asking anybody to swear by it is wrong.&nbsp; If you are socialist remain socialist. But please give me my right not to be a socialist.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">The Motion moved by Shri Sharad Anantrao Joshi was negatived.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-align: center; ">*** End of Excerpts ***</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">It is pertinent to note that this bill was moved in 2005, when the fruits of globalization were just becoming visible &ndash; in India as well as elsewhere. In today&rsquo;s environment, when &ldquo;capitalism&rdquo; is once again a bad word, you can imagine the plight of such a bill if it was to be introduced in Parliament today.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Interestingly, Jairam Ramesh &ndash; while defining Socialism &ndash; mentions the magic phrase &ndash; &rdquo; equality of opportunity&rdquo;.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">If one cannot delete the word &ldquo;socialist&rdquo; from the Constitution of India, can we at least define it to mean &ldquo;equality of opportunity&rdquo;?</strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Published in The Telegraph, 15 August 2007 Ashok V Desai Time out&#160; Nehru, Patel and Pant at the 1948 Jaipur session of the Congress The story of the Independence movement is told in terms of Gandhiji and his followers who opposed colonial rule, braved bullets and sticks and spent years in jail. Gandhiji&#8217;s was a [...]]]></description>
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<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">The story of the Independence movement is told in terms of Gandhiji and his followers who opposed colonial rule, braved bullets and sticks and spent years in jail. Gandhiji&rsquo;s was a movement which mobilized lakhs of people. How did Gandhiji feed them? How did the thousands who served the Congress survive? They did not have independent means; nor did they have steady jobs. They were given modest wages by the Congress or by one of the organizations that Gandhiji set up. These, in turn, were funded by contributions from people. Much of the finance probably came from people with some means. The names of some are known. When Gandhiji set up Sabarmati Ashram and did not know how he was going to support it, Ambalal Sarabhai crossed Ellis Bridge from his Shahibaug house and gave him an anonymous contribution. Jamnalal Bajaj gave Gandhiji the land on which he set up Sevagram Ashram. Ghanshyam Das Birla also gave financial support.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">The independence movement was financed to a substantial extent by industrialists and businessmen. They did so partly out of patriotism, but they also had a reason. They felt that in various ways the colonial government discriminated against them and in favour of British business. As the independence movement gathered strength after World War I, the government became sensitive to this feeling and more even-handed in its industrial policies. But unrecorded in history, there were patriotic businessmen, and they had an agenda for what was to be done with independence.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">Industry in pre-independence India was concentrated around Calcutta in the east, Bombay in the west andMadras in the south. Of the three, industry in Calcutta was largely owned by the British. The Bombay and Madras presidencies were the home of Indian business, and the nationalists amongst them knew Congressmen from their provinces best. Of the latter, Vallabhbhai Patel and C. Rajagopalachari were the most prominent. By comparison, the north and the east were poor in patriotic industrialists.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">Patel and Nehru were the two leaders closest to Gandhiji, most likely to succeed him. Gandhiji chose Nehru for prime ministership when the Congress was asked to join an interim government in 1946, and asked Patel to take a backseat. Patel died in 1950. In 1951, Nehru&rsquo;s government introduced industrial licensing, and later used it to create government monopolies in a series of industries, including heavy machinery, fertilizer, coal, shipping and aircraft, and prevent new private entry into industries such as steel. In protest, Rajaji left the Congress in 1959 and founded the Swatantra Party. The tide of nationalization lasted into the Seventies, when banks were taken over; it ended only with the defeat of Indira Gandhi in 1977.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">Suppose that instead of Nehru, Gandhiji had chosen Patel as prime minister, and that Nehru had walked out of the Congress and started a socialist party in the Fifties: how would that have changed India&rsquo;s fate?</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">It would be wrong to think that Patel&rsquo;s government in the Fifties would have been a liberal government in the modern sense. Patel, Rajaji and Nehru shared a common experience of British rule and apprenticeship with Gandhiji. The Indian economy was very different then &mdash; it was much poorer and less industrialized, and government was less important &mdash; its revenue was just 5 per cent of the gross domestic product. The government faced certain immediate problems; a liberal government would have approached them more or less as Nehru did. For instance, it would have had to tackle the problem of resettling refugees from Pakistan. There were no liberal alternatives to housing, feeding and supporting them.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">The country was also chronically short of foodgrains. It was basically due to the fact that World War II had expanded urban employment and purchasing power, and that the urban demand for food exceeded supply from domestic agriculture. There was no international foodgrain market to fall back on. Only the US had a large enough surplus of wheat. After India turned down in 1950 the invitation of John Foster Dulles, Truman&rsquo;s secretary of state, to join a South-east Asia Treaty Organization, one of America&rsquo;s military alliances to contain the Soviet Union, it was no longer close to the US. Still, the US wheat surplus was so large that it gifted large quantities of it to India throughout the Fifties and Sixties. It was only after the Green Revolution, which began in the late Sixties, that the assistance under PL-480 was dispensed with. It is likely that a Patel government would have taken recourse to PL-480, although it might have increased domestic agricultural production more by leaving agriculture freer to market incentives. India might, for instance, have produced more cotton &mdash; that would have helped the textile industry, which then was large and competitive.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">But it is fair to assume that a Patel government would have dismantled the import controls inherited from the War, and would not have introduced industrial licensing. During the War, India supplied a large volume of goods and services to Britain, which ran up a huge debt in the form of sterling balances. These were inconvertible into dollars because Britain had bought even more from the US without paying for it. But India could have used them to import anything from the Commonwealth &mdash; for instance, wheat from Australia, and machinery from Britain. India ran up an export surplus during the Korean War; it had so much foreign currency in 1950 that almost everything was on Open General Licence &mdash; that is, almost everything could be imported without a licence. So if the government had not launched the forced industrialization programme of 1956, if it had not wasted the sterling balances on building steel and heavy engineering plants, it could have maintained an open import regime throughout.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">The major beneficiary of such a regime would have been industry. The control regime forced it to replace imports at exorbitant cost. Its high costs made it internationally uncompetitive and limited its exports. Its uncompetitiveness, together with the fixed-exchange-rate regime that prevailed throughout the world till 1970, made high protection necessary; the protection made industry even more uncompetitive. China made use of its labour to become the frontrunner in industrialization in the Nineties; India could have become the frontrunner in the Sixties. It would have run ahead of those little nations &mdash; South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand and Malaysia &mdash; which left it behind. In particular, it would have led the world in textiles. Textiles came in the Sixties to be dominated by synthetic fibres; and synthetic fibres became a major branch of petrochemicals. Japan came to dominate this industry; it could have been India instead.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">Controls on technology imports forced industrial firms into long-term relationships with firms abroad, fear of upsetting foreign technology suppliers prevented Indian firms from developing technology, and controls on its import price made foreign suppliers reluctant to sell technology. Thus controls did much to keep Indian firms technologically backward. India would have been a technological leader earlier and in more industries but for the controls.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">Industrial licensing worked throughout to limit competition. It thus made industry high-cost and uncompetitive. But, in addition, it limited entry to families &mdash; known at different times as managing agents, industrial houses and promoters &mdash; that were all rich and well enough connected to manipulate the politicians and bureaucrats who ran the licensing machinery. The capital market was small, and the main source of equity was the family. Thus, industrial licensing restricted enterprise. The impact can be gauged by the acceleration of industrial growth and its diversification that followed the relaxation of the industrial licensing in the Eighties.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">Amongst the worst sufferers of state-dominated industrialization were energy industries. Coal would have been substantially cheaper &mdash; perhaps half as expensive &mdash; if it had not been produced by an overmanned monopoly. Cheaper coal would have given us cheaper electricity; and competition would have led to larger plants, using cheaper fuels, and delivering electricity to more consumers. Apart from being smaller and less efficient, government oil refineries earn roughly twice as high a margin as is internationally prevalent; and more competition in the oil industry would have made us owners of larger oil reserves abroad.</p>
<p align="left" class="story" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">If instead of the Hindu rate of growth of 3.5 per cent, India had achieved 6 per cent in 1950-80, we would have been twice as rich as we are today. But we have lost even more in terms of distribution of growth than of growth itself. We would have been even richer in terms of consumer goods. We would have worn better and cheaper clothes, and owned more white goods that take the daily toil out of people&rsquo;s lives. Our villages would have received cheaper and more widely available electricity; with that electricity and their labour, they would have produced consumer goods at a fraction of the present cost. There would have been far more non-agricultural employment in rural areas. Instead of 5 per cent, we would have generated 25 per cent of world trade; all the nations of the Indian Ocean would have been closely tied to us by trade and investment. All we have to boast about today is our democracy; if we had been liberal for sixty years, we would have been a world model for lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>Making a Mockery of Indian Democracy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bombay,&#160;April 19, 1996 S.V. Raju While socialism is passing into the history books as a once-noble ideal that degenerated into an instrument of tyranny in most parts of the world, it continues to bedevil the Indian polity. Even though we have jettisoned a good deal of the licence-permit-quota regime which in India is the visible [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indiapolicy.org/debate/Notes/writ-article.htm"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">Bombay,&nbsp;April 19, 1996 </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "><strong>S.V. Raju</strong></span></a></p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">While socialism is passing into the history books as a once-noble ideal that degenerated into an instrument of tyranny in most parts of the world, it continues to bedevil the Indian polity. Even though we have jettisoned a good deal of the licence-permit-quota regime which in India is the visible symbol of socialism, the word continues to disfigure the Indian Constitution and is making a mockery of Indian democracy.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">In India a political party cannot register itself with the Election Commission of India unless it swears allegiance to socialism along with secularism and democracy. In other words, as the law relating to elections stands today only a socialist party can participate in the Indian political process.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">When and how did this happen ?</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">In 1976, the preamble to the Constitution of India was amended. The words &quot;Sovereign Democratic Republic&quot; were amended to read &quot;Sovereign Socialist Secular Democratic Republic&quot;. The amendment was adopted during the last days of the brief dictatorship imposed by Mrs. Indira Gandhi when she was the Prime Minister of the Government of India. She of course called it an &lsquo;Emergency&rsquo; when most leaders of parties in the opposition were put in prison (without trial) and civil liberties suspended.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">Based on the amended preamble, Parliament passed in 1989 an amendment to the Representation of the People Act which introduced the concept of registration of political parties for allotment of symbols and the entitlement to other facilities such as free copies of electoral rolls etc. A new section was added to the Representation of the People Act &#8211; Section 29 (A).</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">This new section stipulates among other things that a political party seeking registration should swear allegiance to the Constitution of India in general and to the principles of socialism in particular. Every party candidate filing his nomination paper has also to swear such an oath of allegiance to socialism. Strangely an independent candidate (i.e., a candidate who does not belong to any party) has only to swear allegiance to the Constitution of India without having to spell it out in terms of his or her allegiance to socialism.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">The Swatantra Party, a liberal democratic party was founded in 1959 long before the enactment of Section 29 (A). The Party was founded by Mr. Minoo Masani a patron of the Liberal International and Mr. C. Rajagopalachari a close associate of Mahatma Gandhi.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">The Swatantra Party split in 1974. One group to which this writer and Mr. Masani belonged decided to continue the Swatantra Party in the State of Maharashtra. And it was this party that asked for registration under the new law. The other group in the split joined another party. In its application the Swatantra Party explained that while the</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">party was prepared to swear allegiance to the Constitution and to the principles of secularism and democracy it was not prepared to swear allegiance to socialism for the simple reason that the Swatantra Party was sworn to oppose socialism and statism. The reply from the Election Commission was truly bureaucratic : &lsquo;Please complete the registration as stipulated by Section 29 (A)&rsquo;.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">Denied registration and in the context of the Maharashtra State assembly elections we sought justice from the Bombay High Court by filing a writ petition on 15th December, 1994 three months before the state assembly elections.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">It took the High Court in Bombay 18 months and 20 days to take up the matter and that too only to set a date for the hearing. On April 4, 1996, a Division Bench consisting of the Chief Justice of the Bombay High Court and another judge ordered a hearing arguments in the first week of August (a clear 3 months after yet another election, this time to the Lok Sabha or the House of the People (India&rsquo;s lower house of Parliament ). Thus for the second time, the Swatantra Party was denied its right to participate in the democratic process because of its refusal to give up its liberal position and to falsely declare its adherence to socialism.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">In our writ petition we clearly stated that the &quot;Swatantra Party does not wish to circumvent by prevarication and falsehood&quot; the provision in the election law which compels political parties to swear loyalty to socialism. The petition pointed that we were determined not to follow the example of &quot;extreme revolutionary parties&quot; who for the purpose of securing registration falsely swore that &quot;they bear allegiance to democracy&quot; or of communal (religion based) parties who falsely swore &quot;allegiance to secularism&quot;.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">Our petition pointed out that Section 29 (A) did not provide &quot;for any verification of the truth&quot; of a party&rsquo;s assertion that it was socialist, secular or democratic, &quot;nor is there any instance of registration being denied to or withdrawn from any party on the basis of proven falsehood&quot;. In other words the Swatantra Party could easily have sworn loyalty to socialism merely to obtain registration and then gone on to attack this ideology in its manifesto. &quot;But&quot; said our petition, the Swatantra Party had &quot;no wish to resort to such unconscionable procedure&quot;.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">The petition clarified that its &quot;grievance is not against the amendment to the Preamble to the Constitution incorporating therein a reference to socialism. The Constitution contains many dispositions not all of which need to be uniformly acceptable to any given individual or association of individuals. What is essential is that a citizen must have the right and the possibility at par with any other citizen to act and to canvass by constitutional means, for changing the dispositions of the Constitution in accordance with his inclinations however unreasonable they may look to others at a given point of time. Section 29 (A) of the Act prevents committed and sincere non-socialists from agitating as an organised force in favour of getting the Constitution modified in their favour by entering the Legislature and influencing the persuasions of the other members of parliament&quot;.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">The petition pointed out that the &quot;term socialism has been applied to a large spectrum of theories over the last two centuries. Saint Simonism based on compassion for the less fortunate and suffering fraternity; Owenism as a serious attempt at organisation of the weaker sections into economiucally viable units; Fabianism with its mighty intellectual prestige provided by George Bernard Shaw, Sidney and Beatrice Webb; Guild Socialism advocated by G.D.H. Cole; Welfarism providing a misplaced justification for equal distribution for wealth; the European type of liberal, democratic, welfarist socialism; the Keynesian model entrusting the responsibility of ensuring fuller levels of employment and investment; third world states resorting to planning as an instrument of accelerating growth and equality; the Soviet type of bolshevik scientific socialism based on dialectical materialism, historical determinism, class conmflict, the theory of surplus value aimed at industrialisation nationalisation, planning and dictatorship of proletariat; and last but not the least, the Maoist, Guevarist, Castroist, Royist etc. provide only part of the spectrum of ideas that have been identified with the word socialism&#8230;.Other schools of socialist thought are identified by the appendage of qualifications like democratic, christian, liberal etc.&quot;</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">The petition went to refer to the dictionary meaning of the word &quot;The Concise Oxford Dictionary defines the word socialism as political and economic theory of social organisation which advocates that the community as a whole should own and control the means of production, distribution and exchange; a policy or practice base on this theory. It is quite clear that the word socialism in its unmixed form means much more and much less than a system based on justice, liberty, equality and fraternity than is envisaged in the Constitution of India. It, therefore, follows that the oath of allegiance to both the Constitution of India and to socialism are in good part mutually contradictory.&quot;</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">Drawing an essential distinction between socialism and liberalism, the petition observed: &quot;The essential part of all brands of socialism is the notion of the paramountcy of society over the individual; of social decision-making over individual behaviour. This concept of paramountcy stands in ruins today. It is now accepted quasi-universally that mankind has not, till date, invented anything better than the market mechanism for arriving at the best decisions for the society as a whole&quot;</p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">The petition, as we mentioned earlier will be heard in the first week of August. But it will not erase the fact that a liberal democratic party has been denied its right for the second time to participate in the elections because of its refusal to accept socialism, as its creed.</p>
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